Podcast
30
mins
May 6, 2025
Visa’s Recipe for Measuring Change Effectiveness
with
Stacey Taylor, VP Implementation & Change, Visa
Ever get asked for proof that your transformation is working?
While the rest of the business obsesses over dashboards and metrics, transformation leaders are often left with... vibes?
Stacey Taylor, Vice President of Implementation & Change at Visa, has cracked the code on measuring the "unmeasurable" in change initiatives. She shares their practical three-pillar framework connecting individual performance to organizational outcomes, using real examples from Agile and Gen AI rollouts. She reveals creative approaches for gathering meaningful data without survey fatigue and why measuring productivity requires looking at speed, effort, and quality together.
You’ll particularly love her game-changing "snack strategy" for keeping impatient executives satisfied while the real results cook!
This episode is a must-listen for transformation leaders tired of relying on gut feeling to track progress.
00.00 - Introduction
01:30 - The challenge of measuring change
05:15 - Why change initiatives lack measurement compared to other business functions
08:42 - The three pillars of Visa's change measurement framework
11:00 - Using an Agile transformation example to illustrate measurement approach
13:45 - Collecting data through systems vs. surveys
16:10 - Strategies to combat survey fatigue and increase participation
19:52 - What metrics matter most to C-suite executives
21:38 - Using pilot teams to demonstrate early wins
24:15 - Measuring productivity through speed, effort, and quality
26:00 - Applying the framework to Visa's Gen AI transformation
28:48 - Measuring business impact through productivity uplift and realized savings
32:10 - Tracking individual performance via adoption velocity and proficiency
34:45 - Evaluating program effectiveness and managing resistance
37:35 - A/B testing methodology with Microsoft to quantify time savings
41:00 - Final thoughts: Every transformation should be measured, but not all in ROI
Connect with:
Nellie Wartoft
CEO of Tigerhall, Chair of the Executive Council for Leading Change (ECLC)
nellie@tigerhall.com