Podcast
17
mins
May 27, 2025
How to Flatten an Organization Without Breaking It
with
Connie Klimko, Transformation Lead, Siemens Energy
Restructuring without destroying morale? It's possible!
Connie Klimko, Transformation Lead at Siemens Energy, takes us inside their successful flattening of a hierarchical organization that eliminated management layers while keeping talent.
She reveals their strategy for reframing career paths beyond traditional "boxes" on org charts, empowering experts, and rebuilding trust between newly combined teams. From transparent job postings to innovative team-bonding tactics like role-swapping, Connie shares practical approaches to making restructuring work. Plus, she explains why even successful restructures can take years to fully settle in and how to maintain employee resilience through constant change. A must-listen for any transformation leader facing reorganization.
00.00 - Introduction
01:30 - Context behind Siemens Energy's restructuring
03:45 - The initial employee reaction to flattening the organizational hierarchy
05:20 - What happened to managers who lost their "boxes" in the restructuring
07:10 - The expert career path as an alternative to management advancement
09:15 - Building trust between newly combined teams during restructuring
12:30 - Role-swapping and shadowing to build empathy between merged teams
14:45 - The importance of storytelling and reframing in transformation
16:20 - Practical advice for those currently managing a restructuring
19:40 - The ADKAR approach and why management often moves too quickly
22:15 - Communication strategies: why managers need to know first
24:30 - Managing morale through values consistency during constant change
26:50 - Using leadership essentials to guide teams through transformation
28:15 - Final thoughts on making restructuring successful
Connect with:
Nellie Wartoft
CEO of Tigerhall, Chair of the Executive Council for Leading Change (ECLC)
nellie@tigerhall.com