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May 27, 2025

How to Flatten an Organization Without Breaking It

with

Connie Klimko, Transformation Lead, Siemens Energy

Restructuring without destroying morale? It's possible! 


Connie Klimko, Transformation Lead at Siemens Energy, takes us inside their successful flattening of a hierarchical organization that eliminated management layers while keeping talent. 


She reveals their strategy for reframing career paths beyond traditional "boxes" on org charts, empowering experts, and rebuilding trust between newly combined teams. From transparent job postings to innovative team-bonding tactics like role-swapping, Connie shares practical approaches to making restructuring work. Plus, she explains why even successful restructures can take years to fully settle in and how to maintain employee resilience through constant change. A must-listen for any transformation leader facing reorganization.


  • 00.00 - Introduction 

  • 01:30 - Context behind Siemens Energy's restructuring

  • 03:45 - The initial employee reaction to flattening the organizational hierarchy

  • 05:20 - What happened to managers who lost their "boxes" in the restructuring

  • 07:10 - The expert career path as an alternative to management advancement

  • 09:15 - Building trust between newly combined teams during restructuring

  • 12:30 - Role-swapping and shadowing to build empathy between merged teams

  • 14:45 - The importance of storytelling and reframing in transformation

  • 16:20 - Practical advice for those currently managing a restructuring

  • 19:40 - The ADKAR approach and why management often moves too quickly

  • 22:15 - Communication strategies: why managers need to know first

  • 24:30 - Managing morale through values consistency during constant change

  • 26:50 - Using leadership essentials to guide teams through transformation

  • 28:15 - Final thoughts on making restructuring successful



Connect with:

⁠⁠⁠⁠Nellie Wartoft⁠⁠⁠⁠

CEO of ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tigerhall⁠⁠⁠⁠, Chair of the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Executive Council for Leading Change (ECLC)⁠⁠⁠⁠

nellie@tigerhall.com

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